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Hello,
I will start with a little disclaimer - it is my first post, not just here, but on forums in general. I hope that I did everything right (right category etc.), if not, please let me know - I will try to fix it. + Pardon my imperfect English. Now to the problem itself: "Introduction": In my country, we have car state inspections. My V70 is due for one. My SRS light is on, and, because of my stupidity doing brakes, the ABS light is on as well, thus I have a great start for state inspection... I do not want to take out DIM lights, I want to fix the issue(s). The issue: The first big one was to realise that V70 I (1998) is in the perfect years of 1996-1998, so OBD-II is not OBD-II, and the old Flash codes are no longer here. Thus I bought VAG-KKL, later VAG-CAN-K cable, got myself VOL-FCR and VAG commander and tried to diagnose the DTC, and erase them. Now the "fun part" - half of the car does not want to communicate. Engine, immobiliser, clima-module works fine - I can speak to them, I see the live data and work with DTCs. SRS module - I can communicate with it, after making the connection and asking for DTC I got "faulty data", live data are not readable (? instead of data). ABS module, DIM, and few other modules are not responding. Now "the well" where I have fallen: I have spent about 30 hours trying to solve it, diagnose it, fix the issue. I will write here everything I have done that I remember. I asked on the local Facebook site for help, only answer I got was to check the solder on the pins on the ABS module. So I did - pins were fine, I did resolder them, to be sure. I did the same for DIM. I have seen some old fixes in DIM where the heat sink rubbed the PCB. I did checked these places with DMM and put lacker over them to be extra sure. Because the DIM works as it should (beside the com issue), I do not think it is damaged. During my poking into these modules, I did find CAN transceiver chips and traced them to pins on the connectors. I did hooked CAN-Hi, CAN-LO vs. GND on the oscilloscope. When I was with probes behind DIM, with ABS disconnected, I did see sync pulses. When I connected it to ABS, I did see data transfer. I did usu DMM to check voltage at CAN-Hi and LOW - both are about 2,5 V. Thus this part of CAN must be fine. But it seems that DIM CAN is only connected to ABS module. I could not find any info if this is OK, or not. I did put probes and DMM at OBD-II port and it was silent - no CAN signal. From what I could find on the internet it goes straight to CEM - I do not know, if there is some active safety decoupling of the OBD-II port vs. the car, or some transceiver/signal converter. CEM is hidden so well that I canīt reach it. So I did the risky thing and connected CAN behind DIM with OBD-II CAN (bypass CEM). I can now see CAN voltage at the port but the com issue is still present - nothing has changed in any way. I did find that a typical CAN has 2 terminating resistors on both ends. I tried to measure them, but I have not measured any ohms between CAN lines at ABS and OBD-II. Thus I assumed this car (maybe cars in general) does not have any. Does cars, especially V70 I have CAN line resistors? If so, where are they? I did check many things visually, but everything seems to be OK. Internet is silent about similar issues, Chat GTP had gave a lot of info about CAN, K-Line and OBD-II coms, but I still donīt know what should I do next. I could not find a definitive answer if Vida DICE will work on this car. It is pricy and and do not want to buy it just to try it. + I personally thing that I will not work. "The question": So, is here anybody, who can point me in the right direction? I need my car on the road, and these issues taken care of. Itīs sad, but You are my only hope - I do not where else to ask, or what to do next. |
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