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Sep 1st, 2019, 17:43 | #11 |
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Acceleration is one thing, range is another...
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Sep 1st, 2019, 17:53 | #12 |
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Not lost upon me, but the subject is on the future of caravanning. Capable vehicles are available today, easily able to tow for 3 hours between charges. Not enough for an all-nighter to Tuscany, but plenty good for an awful lot of journeys and the infrastructure is still immature. Give it 3 years and the future will be quiet. And torquey.
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Sep 2nd, 2019, 22:54 | #13 |
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Surely the answer is to put another 150-250Kg of batteries in the caravan? What's the betting Tesla will be making electric caravans and trailers with batteries in them?
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I’m not a caravanner, but won’t that restrict the towcar/trailer weight ratios?
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Sep 3rd, 2019, 09:33 | #15 |
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The elephants in the room are....
How all these electrical vehicles are going to be made considering the following:
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/press-office/p...g-net-zer.html and I quote The metal resource needed to make all cars and vans electric by 2050 and all sales to be purely battery electric by 2035. To replace all UK-based vehicles today with electric vehicles (not including the LGV and HGV fleets), assuming they use the most resource-frugal next-generation NMC 811 batteries, would take 207,900 tonnes cobalt, 264,600 tonnes of lithium carbonate (LCE), at least 7,200 tonnes of neodymium and dysprosium, in addition to 2,362,500 tonnes copper. This represents, just under two times the total annual world cobalt production, nearly the entire world production of neodymium, three quarters the world’s lithium production and at least half of the world’s copper production during 2018. Even ensuring the annual supply of electric vehicles only, from 2035 as pledged, will require the UK to annually import the equivalent of the entire annual cobalt needs of European industry. That's before we consider the environmental impact of electric cars, which are being deliberately ignored: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...an-gas-powered We're being sold a pup here, especially as the whole "CO2 is killing the planet" hoax is literally based on junk science from scientists with a 100% track record of getting it wrong. I'll stick to diesel thanks, you can keep your electric white elephants.
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Sep 3rd, 2019, 15:18 | #16 |
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There's some interesting points raised, but a couple that are somewhat ignored. Principle amongst them are the location of the pollution; one of the most critical things about remote electricity generation is that it can be conducted (hahahaa see what I did there?) away from populated areas, the CO2 generated can be offset locally by trees planted nearby. You can't do that in downtown Bristol.
Another issue is that of how spent batteries are used. Once they are no longer useful to power vehicles, devices which need a high rate of charge and discharge to be useful, they can still be used as support for housing requirements. Ditto vehicles that are plugged in overnight. Very shortly, gas boilers will be illegal in new house builds; the end of burning dead fossils is coming as surely as pubs will stop accepting cash. |
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With with CO2 it's not so local - it's damage is as a greenhouse gas - it's the overall quantity in the atmosphere that's the issue, not us breathing it in the streets. Diesel emissions and Carbon Monoxide can be toxic to humans, especially those that are elderly or already in ill-health. Carbon Dioxide is not, the issue is the link to climate change.
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