Non-Turbo Remap, Worth it?

juustme · May 11th, 2012, 06:04

I have two Volvo S80's A T6 (which the wife has taken) and a 140 BHP 2.4i manual which I am driving.

Has anyone (and is it worth it to) have a remap of the 140 BHP 2.4i engine and who near Nottingham would anyone recommend?

Some websites say that the 2.4i can only be raised to 160 BHP (if it is a 140BHP) or 183 -195 BHP (if it is a 170 BHP) despite both engines being exactly the same.

Listed prices are all over the boards as are power/economy claims.

TLDR --> Is it worth it for the Non-Turbo & has anyone had any results recommendations?

GRN Motors · May 11th, 2012, 08:04

Morning.

It depends on how many miles you do, and how you drive.

We have remapped a few 140hp 2.4 engine range to 170hp. All who have had it done have noticed a difference in power delivery and an increase in fuel economy depending on their journey and driving styles.

here is a link..

http://www.rica-uk.com/viewcar.aspx?vehicle=162

hth

Chad

shark90 · May 11th, 2012, 08:26

The gains on the 170hp model are minimal, 185hp isn't going to happen, as such we don't even list it. We do however take the 140 to 175hp. We're based in Mansfield.

grin factor · May 11th, 2012, 08:39

I had mt C30 2.0D tuned by a company in Sunderland, and TBH didn't notice any differeence. In my view it was a waste of money. They had all the sales pitch, graphs etc, but in the real world it didn't happen. Unless your car is put on a dyno before & after how are you going to tell?
Save your money. Just my view of course.

GRN Motors · May 11th, 2012, 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by grin factor

I had mt C30 2.0D tuned by a company in Sunderland, and TBH didn't notice any differeence. In my view it was a waste of money. They had all the sales pitch, graphs etc, but in the real world it didn't happen. Unless your car is put on a dyno before & after how are you going to tell?
Save your money. Just my view of course.

Not sure what company you dealt with.

When a 2.0D has been remapped, you will definately notice a difference in power delivery.

LJD · May 11th, 2012, 09:22

would only re map a diesel turbo .

But i believe that good driving skills are worth a extra 10 BHP !

shark90 · May 11th, 2012, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRN Motors

Not sure what company you dealt with.

When a 2.0D has been remapped, you will definately notice a difference in power delivery.

Totally agree with this. How did they perform the remap? There aren't many people who can remap the 2.0D without taking the ECU out and breaking it open, so if they aren't a well known Volvo tuner (or dealer for one) with the correct tools to read and write over OBD, and they didn't take out the ECU, perhaps it didn't actually get done?

princepugh · May 11th, 2012, 13:00

If you look at the torque curves you can see a reasonable improvement in torque delivered between 2k and 5k rpm, i.e. real world driving, which you will notice more than the peak power improvement.

What you've got to balance is the cost:benefit - I'm always of the opinion that your car should be in tip-top condition before you go for a remap otherwise your just chucking good money after bad. If you can afford it, your car is in good condition and your insurer is prepared to cover you then go for it.

Jim314 · May 11th, 2012, 13:56

Increased torque means increased stress on engine internals, and presumably on the transmission. Does the 140 BHP have the same pistons, rods, and crank shaft as the 170BHP?

Why pay money up front to take a chance on shortening the life of the engine for a little more power? Very unlikely that a remap would improve fuel economy. Just accept the 140 for what it is.

LJD · May 11th, 2012, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim314

Increased torque means increased stress on engine internals, and presumably on the transmission. Does the 140 BHP have the same pistons, rods, and crank shaft as the 170BHP?

Why pay money up front to take a chance on shortening the life of the engine for a little more power? Very unlikely that a remap would improve fuel economy. Just accept the 140 for what it is.

WRONG !

Trust me, a good Rolling road Re map will improve the MPG. I have had 3 cars done and each one has shown a good benefit . I was getting at least 8 MPG out of my GOlf tdi . Others have been about 3-4 MPG more

May 11th, 2012, 06:04	#1
juustme New Member Last Online: Mar 16th, 2015 10:24 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Nottingham	Non-Turbo Remap, Worth it? I have two Volvo S80's A T6 (which the wife has taken) and a 140 BHP 2.4i manual which I am driving. Has anyone (and is it worth it to) have a remap of the 140 BHP 2.4i engine and who near Nottingham would anyone recommend? Some websites say that the 2.4i can only be raised to 160 BHP (if it is a 140BHP) or 183 -195 BHP (if it is a 170 BHP) despite both engines being exactly the same. Listed prices are all over the boards as are power/economy claims. TLDR --> Is it worth it for the Non-Turbo & has anyone had any results recommendations?

May 11th, 2012, 08:04	#2
GRN Motors Chad Last Online: Jan 13th, 2017 16:39 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Birmingham	Morning. It depends on how many miles you do, and how you drive. We have remapped a few 140hp 2.4 engine range to 170hp. All who have had it done have noticed a difference in power delivery and an increase in fuel economy depending on their journey and driving styles. here is a link.. http://www.rica-uk.com/viewcar.aspx?vehicle=162 hth Chad __________________ Independant Volvo Specialists RICA Authorised Distributor (www.rica-uk.com) Shark Performance Authorised Distributor (www.sharkperformance.co.uk) www.grnmotors.co.uk (site under construction) info@grnmotors.co.uk

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shark90 Shark Performance Last Online: May 25th, 2020 21:06 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Mansfield	The gains on the 170hp model are minimal, 185hp isn't going to happen, as such we don't even list it. We do however take the 140 to 175hp. We're based in Mansfield. __________________ Shark Performance - Tuning Redefined w: www.sharkperformance.co.uk e: sales@sharkperformance.co.uk t: 01623 332233 10% off remaps and vehicle servicing to VolvoForums members

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Jim314 Premier Member Last Online: Nov 20th, 2018 01:45 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas	Increased torque means increased stress on engine internals, and presumably on the transmission. Does the 140 BHP have the same pistons, rods, and crank shaft as the 170BHP? Why pay money up front to take a chance on shortening the life of the engine for a little more power? Very unlikely that a remap would improve fuel economy. Just accept the 140 for what it is. __________________ 2004 V70 2.4 petrol 170 5-spd auto (lost 2016 June, collision with deer) 2007 XC90 FWD 3.2 petrol 6-spd auto

May 11th, 2012, 08:39	#4
grin factor Senior Member Last Online: Feb 27th, 2015 20:35 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: sunderland	I had mt C30 2.0D tuned by a company in Sunderland, and TBH didn't notice any differeence. In my view it was a waste of money. They had all the sales pitch, graphs etc, but in the real world it didn't happen. Unless your car is put on a dyno before & after how are you going to tell? Save your money. Just my view of course.

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LJD I've Been Banned Last Online: Oct 22nd, 2021 18:48 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: london	would only re map a diesel turbo . But i believe that good driving skills are worth a extra 10 BHP !

May 11th, 2012, 13:00	#8
princepugh Senior Member Last Online: May 29th, 2013 23:24 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sheffield	If you look at the torque curves you can see a reasonable improvement in torque delivered between 2k and 5k rpm, i.e. real world driving, which you will notice more than the peak power improvement. What you've got to balance is the cost:benefit - I'm always of the opinion that your car should be in tip-top condition before you go for a remap otherwise your just chucking good money after bad. If you can afford it, your car is in good condition and your insurer is prepared to cover you then go for it.

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